What about the 1st scav you encountered?

I’m still learning and need more trying before I can give solid feedback, but main points of feedbacks so far (and I’m not sure profile is fully responsible for it):
1. After you’ve been visually spotted (or group spotted), even if you repositioned 20+ meters from initial position, low level gear scavs quite often get an immidiate successful shot with inhumane reaction characteristics as soon as you get in their view on ranges about 30 meters. For low level players of Realism Mod it’s often fatal.
2. Group spotting seems to share information about you to far away members (50-70m), and then they start suppressing you without being able to see. Experience it in heavy rain from a group of scavs where one is close and one in the end of the central woods sawmill
3. Investigating close gunfire scavs are quite reckless and inattentive to the possible threat

4. Goon squad on woods has very high spotting ability
5. Looting seems quite loud, I experienced many times that as soon as I open a container, the bot sprints to my position

I have some recordings done with Raid Review if you interested in any of the points

Thanks for the solid feedback. Keep in mind that I have almost no time to playtest these things usually so you all are playtesting for me, essentially.

1) I intended for the Scavs to fire very quickly after seeing you, and very inaccurately, so I’ll work on that. I think I’ve seen a variable for reacquire after reposition.

2) I will explore the SAIN options to see if there is some kind of communication variable, as I’ve also noticed that Scav swarming can get a little too much. But if there is a gunfight and nearby Scavs hear it, won’t it be obvious? Here is the importance of suppressed and subsonic. I will keep an eye out for these behaviors.

3) They’re cracked out crazies, that makes sense. HOWEVER, I do want to do a repass on Scav personalities (perhaps Scav-only personalities) to make give them a great diversity in personality.

Thanks for this amazing feedback

More feedback:
The preset is preety solid actually:
1.The bots feel very real
2.It’s very balanced around Tarkov IRL
but:
1.The bots sometimes don’t hear you at all
2.They sometimes do 90 degree kills, aka they turn left in less than a milisecond and kill you, and then return to their original head position

Thank you for elaborating a bit on that.

I’ve noticed that bots sometimes are a little too oblivious for hearing – and with my new visual nerf mod, I guess hearing could be buffed.

I will work on the 360 no-scoping. Perhaps it’s a little overtuned. (Although I might add something to the aforementioned visual mod that decreases accuracy as a function of viability, so I would have to balance Adibots to that as well).

I can fight the bots but at the same time is not a walk in the park.

I’m gonna start a new wipe with Realism, let’s see if that % surv rate keeps up or not, for now I’ve died 3 out of 3, so yeah xDDD

Update:

Yeah I’m getting fucked over and over. LOLW

Loved the little update xD

Well, I am still understanding how much ThatsLit is working or not working. My preset rewards slow movement and concealment, so – you tell me if that is hard or easy. Why don’t you just try it and find out.

find it on discord fika mods channel

Did already, they’re unstable forks for 3.11, not recommended even by FIKA people.

Heck yeah!

what do you mean you ported it to 3.11? what settings did you have to adjust for?

All you really need to do is install this preset as you normally would. Then in the SAIN gui, just select this preset then “create new preset”. SAIN then just copies all the settings into a fresh preset for the current version number

The adjustments I made were because this preset was created with Realism and IRL in mind. I just made the bots a bit more accurate since these mods aren’t updated for 3.11 yet

ya i’ve got it installed was just curious what you changed, thanks!

Thank you for the feedback, I’ll try to work on that. So to follow up, when they shoot back is the return fire immediately effective? Or do you get the feeling that the risk is very low that they’ll actually hit you? Honestly it doesn’t bother me that much they that return fire from the train station: in tarkov in general, I feel the engagement distances are artificially small just because of the game’s game loops. In reality that distance well within effective range for mid calibers. So, again, that they engage you doesn’t bother me much. Being scavs (ie crackheads), they should not engage too quickly or effectively at that range.

Would love videos.

I wouldn’t say the first shot is “effective,” surprisingly close, yes, but not effective. I’ll try to load the preset and get back to you. I also turned on icons on dynamic maps (trying to fix my bot spawning rate) and I noticed they were tracking me through walls at a distance. It was pretty wild; something isn’t loving it. Oh, full disclaimer: I am using this with the 3.11 version of SAIN, even though I’m sure that doesn’t matter.

Edit: I also can’t get that’s lit working. i’ve run the proper one and they didn’t seem effected at all so i dropped it. in fact i think they were seeing through bushes easier.

The biggest factor that affects how quick a bot can track you is hearing distance. I’m no expert but the AI here seem to track based on a last known. Once a bot becomes aware of your position, it instantly locks onto you (regardless of obstacles). The vision speed values just determine how quick the bot goes from “seeing” you to shooting you. Best way to slow their detection speed down is to reduce how far out they can hear you.

I noticed that too, they have pretty good aim when you stand still. And they barely hit you when you keep moving.

Great feedback guys. Just some clarification: can they not HIT you or do they not even shoot?

Like they shoot into the ceiling, wallls etc, but they can’t seem to hit me at all.