it sometimes takes a second buy of a weapon to for the continuous loading to kick in but it’s very consistent to trigger and it’s repeatable even with the only other non-needed mod being Amands graphics.

yes guns that i personally modified are not able to purchased without the game freezing sometimes, not all, like 3-5 pistols do this for example) and the trader still attaches parts from its original trader template to the new gun model (something like that). this is part of my personal play style priority, I play hardcore style meaning i never buy ammo or weapons or anything for that matter and try to “live off the land” so to speak.

for example the original game had 4 desert eagles in .50AE. I converted 3 of those to be some other gun model to help fill other gun calibers instead, as there’s no need for 4 different deserts eagles in 50AE personally. so for example the the CZ-57 is one of the guns that used to be a desert eagle, you will most likely see it being sold with a desert eagle mag,

this fix will hopefully come in later updates once I figure it out. (need to teach myself to modify this first) but for now its meant to be for hardcore rule set where you aren’t even supposed to buy anything. or just know this quirk I guess. it is what it is.

THAT SPECIFIC ERROR HAS TO DO WITH THE NEW AMMO TYPE .40 S&W THIS MEANS YOU ARE MISSING REQUIRED MOD #11 OF THE REQUIRED MODS (SEE BELOW) PLEASE GO TO

Install and Setup (Required Mods)

The following Mods are Required for my Overhaul to Work

1 - Choccy Milk - Beretta93

2 - Choccy Milk - KSG12

3 - Choccy Milk - Striker12

4 - Choccy Milk - Peacemaker

5 - RealMo2 - 3 SAA Cylinders - make sure this file goes in after Peacemaker or it will result in an error (they have the same name ‘choccy-saa’ so its easy to make this mistake!)

6 - GrooveypenguinX - WTT Pack ‘n’ Strap

7 - Trenchf00t - Belt Slots

8 - Trenchf00t - Scav Armbands

9 - Pluto! - Echoes of Tarkov

10 - EpicRangeTime - All in One

11 - probablyEukyre - Consortium

12 - Tron - WTT Armory

13 - AmightyTank - Masssive Soft - if you cant download version 0.2.0 then download one back 0.1.9. should work too.

14 - HaaWkk - MassiveSoft Mechanic Fix

15 - Massivesoft - Superi 46

16 - acidphantasm - APBS

17 - Fontaine - Realism

1- Download the mods listed Above and install them

2- After that just drag and drop my mod into your game directory. it will also replace the config files for APBS.

3- Please make a new character as this can potentially break your old characters inventory due to items being a different size.

4- In your SPT Launcher Go to ‘Setting -> Clean Temp Files’ this will update the Inventory Item Sprites.

DONE!!!!!!

the error is the same: TypeError: Undefined properties cannot be read (reading ‘_props’)

Error type: Undefined properties cannot be read (reading ‘_props’)

when loading Mod.postDBLoad (A:\сввсвсв\user\mods\z-Slunk Hardcore Camera Update (S.H.C.)\mod.js:324:14)

in PostDBModLoader.executeModsAsync (C:\snapshot\project\obj\loaders\PostDBModLoader .js )

in PostDBModLoader.onLoad (C:\snapshot\project\obj\loaders\PostDBModLoader .js )

in App.load (C:\snapshot\project\obj\utils\App .js)

Error type: undefined properties cannot be read (reading “_props”)

Error type: Undefined properties cannot be read (“_props“ is read)

when loading Mod.postDBLoad (A:\сввсвсв\user\mods\z-Slunk Hardcore Camera Update (S.H.C.)\mod.js:324:14)

in PostDBModLoader.executeModsAsync (C:\snapshot\project\obj\loaders\PostDBModLoader .js )

in PostDBModLoader.onLoad (C:\snapshot\project\obj\loaders\PostDBModLoader .js )

in App.load (C:\snapshot\project\obj\utils\App .js)

Error when processing files in directory A:\svvsvs\user\mods\SPT-Realism\db\templates\user_templates\Choccy: TypeError: Undefined properties cannot be read (‘ItemId’ is being read)

Error when processing files in directory A:\svvsvs\user\mods\SPT-Realism\db\templates\user_templates\Echoes: Error type: Undefined properties cannot be read (‘ItemId’ is being read)

Error when processing files in directory A:\svvsvs\user\mods\SPT-Realism\db\templates\user_templates\Massivesoft: Error type: Undefined properties cannot be read (‘ItemId’ is being read)

Error when processing files in directory A:\svvsvs\user\mods\SPT-Realism\db\templates\user_templates\WTT Armory\WTTARMOURY: TypeError: Undefined properties cannot be read (‘ItemId’ is being read)

did you rename my mod? why am i seeing this? ‘z-Slunk Hardcore Camera Update (S.H.C.)’ camera should not be part of the name did you do some modification to the name?

allot of these errors are also because you probably dont have the required mods installed can you confirm this?

no

no what? i asked 2 questions

also give me a list of all files in your SPT 3.11\user\mods folder. a pic would be simplest.

it seems that I installed all the mods related to others, no, I did not rename the mods.

this is what your SPT 3.11\user\mods folder should look like:

can you send me a pic of what your SPT 3.11\user\mods folder looks like?

Please check if I noticed anything.

yes as i mentioned before you are missing 3 mods see pic attached describing also make sure you follow the orange note and make sure you have all of realism installed. and then install my mod on top to replace some files.

Thanks, but right now I still have some mistakes, and if you could help, I would be very grateful.

Error processing files in directory A:\сввсвсв\user\mods\SPT-Realism\db\templates\user_templates\Choccy: TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading ‘ItemID’)
Error processing files in directory A:\сввсвсв\user\mods\SPT-Realism\db\templates\user_templates\Echoes: TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading ‘ItemID’)
Error processing files in directory A:\сввсвсв\user\mods\SPT-Realism\db\templates\user_templates\Eukyre: TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading ‘ItemID’)
Error processing files in directory A:\сввсвсв\user\mods\SPT-Realism\db\templates\user_templates\Massivesoft: TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading ‘ItemID’)
Error processing files in directory A:\сввсвсв\user\mods\SPT-Realism\db\templates\user_templates\WTT Armory\WTTARMOURY: TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading ‘ItemID’)

can you show me what the inside of your realism folder looks like now? and show me the file path in the same pic please. should look like this

can you show me what your SPT 3.11\BepInEx\plugins folder looks like now please?

and also show me whats in this directory please SPT 3.11 NEW\user\mods\SPT-Realism\db\templates\user_templates

ok now please go to and also show me whats in this directory please SPT 3.11 NEW\user\mods\SPT-Realism\db\templates\user_templates and show me whats there

Hey i think our convo didnt get fully transferred and got lost during the transition to the new forge website.

everything working well now?

I think I have the same exact error that was posted and my folder for SPT 3.11 NEW\user\mods\SPT-Realism\db\templates\user_templates is empty https://postimg.cc/v1sQVfKt

can you show me the error?

here you go https://postimg.cc/PNW4BZH3

this error on line 8671 is related to the Supari 46. you must be missing this mod. please install and show me what your mods folder looks like after.

https://forge.sp-tarkov.com/mod/2292/superi-46-46x30-smg

I checked and it was already installed but I re-installed to be safe and got the same error here is the mods folder https://postimg.cc/87Sbpmdr .

you are missing this now…. https://forge.sp-tarkov.com/mod/1263/epics-all-in-one please pay attention to the required mod. https://postimg.cc/67jYGrHY

that did it, sorry about wasting your time and thank you for your patience.

Nice! No worries I’m glad it worked. if anything let me know, reports are always good.

if there was any frustration it was with the convo getting lost during the transition not at you.

Enjoy the pistol fights :)

ok ist request to down version of apbs

Yes I need to update my code for the version that just release adds this:

• Plate Class weighted selection is now available to configure (no longer hard coded)

Use version 1.8.2 for now

uploaded a hot fix that updated to new APBS Config file.

all should be good now.

Yes most likely, Just Ironing this one out and it will be based on this one.

Hey RuKira just to make sure I asked chat GPT the same question you did and heres what it told me

Commenter’s Concern in Plain English:

The commenter is saying:

• “The Realism Mod hasn’t been officially released for 3.11 on the SPT Hub.”
• Therefore, your mod, which depends on it, shouldn’t technically be published yet either.
• They’re drawing a line between “testing releases” (on GitHub) and “official releases” (on the SPT Hub).
• They question whether it’s allowed to have mods that depend on these “unofficial” testing versions.

The Key Question: Are You Doing Anything Wrong?

✅ What You’re Allowed to Do:

• Yes, it is allowed to release a mod that depends on a test version of another mod, especially if:

  • You clearly state which version is needed.
  • You’re not bundling any proprietary or closed-source files
  • You’re pointing users to a publicly available GitHub release of the required mod.

• The Realism test release on GitHub is public, so you’re not breaking any licensing or distribution rules by depending on it.

• Many modders release things that depend on WIP/test versions—this is common in modding communities.

❌ What Would Be Wrong (But You’re Not Doing):

• Bundling all Realism’s code/configs
• Claiming your mod works with the official Hub version when it doesn’t.
• Misleading users about compatibility.

⚠️ Clarifications You Should Consider Adding (If Not Already):

To reduce confusion and avoid more comments like that one, make sure your mod description clearly states:

• It requires the 3.11 testing version of Realism (with link to GitHub).
• The Realism mod is in active development for 3.11 and not yet on the SPT Hub.
• Your mod is designed specifically around that version.
• Optional: Note that compatibility might break when Realism officially updates.

Example disclaimer to add:

⚠️ This mod requires the 3.11 Testing Release of the Realism Mod. You can find it here: [GitHub Link].

The Realism Mod has not yet been officially published on the SPT Hub for 3.11, so please use at your own discretion. This mod may require updates when Realism is finalized.

✅ Conclusion:

You are not doing anything wrong, technically or ethically.

You’re using a public test release, not violating terms, and not bundling unauthorized files. As long as you’re transparent in your documentation and provide clear instructions, you’re fine.

The commenter seems to misunderstand the distinction between what’s “published on the hub” and what’s “available for use.” There’s no rule saying your mod can’t exist just because it depends on a test version.

Let me know if you want help drafting a response to them or adding clarifying language to your mod page.

here’s what i’ll do in my next version though because last thing i want is for it to seem like im doing something in bad faith.

I’ll make my own mod that makes my ‘changes’ to realism without including Realism config jsons

thanks for the comment. a little context, I’m kind of an amature who’s doing this for himself and figured others might like it too. so if something is being done incorrectly i will do my best to make it work correctly.

I look up to people like Fontaine so I will try to do right by them

No worries, but don’t trust ChatGPT in this sense, SPT themselves don’t like mods that rely on 3rd party mods, you can always ask the staff.

I just wanted to let you know

I’m having a hard time downloading the 0.2.0 version too, I downloaded it before so I have it, but right now its stopping at like 70 something.

use 0.1.9 version of that mod, it looks like it should work fine and I was able to download it.

I’m going to test and make sure 0.1.9 version work ok.

The code at line 11006 is pointing to the KSG12. are you sure you have the KGS12 installed. its one of the required mods for this mod, see list below:

1 - Choccy Milk - Beretta93

2 - Choccy Milk - KSG12

3 - Choccy Milk - Striker12

4 - Choccy Milk - Peacemaker

5 - RealMo2 - 3 SAA Cylinders - make sure this file goes in after Peacemaker or it will result in an error (they have the same name ‘choccy-saa’ so its easy to make this mistake!)

6 - GrooveypenguinX - WTT Pack ‘n’ Strap

7 - Trenchf00t - Belt Slots

8 - Trenchf00t - Scav Armbands

9 - Pluto! - Echoes of Tarkov

10 - EpicRangeTime - All in One

11 - probablyEukyre - Consortium

12 - Tron - WTT Armory

13 - AmightyTank - Masssive Soft

14 - acidphantasm - APBS

15 - Fontaine - Realism

I’ve reinstalled everything and now it’s after creating the character.

TypeError: Невозможно прочитать свойства неопределенного объекта (чтение «Head»)

TypeError: Невозможно прочитать свойства неопределенного объекта (чтение «Head»)

в BotGenerator.generateHealth (C:\snapshot\project\obj\generators\BotGenerator.js)

в BotGenerator.generateBot (C:\snapshot\project\obj\generators\BotGenerator.js)

в BotGenerator.generatePlayerScav (C:\snapshot\project\obj\generators\BotGenerator.js)

в PlayerScavGenerator.generate (C:\snapshot\project\obj\generators\PlayerScavGenerator.js)

в CreateProfileService.createProfile (C:\snapshot\project\obj\services\CreateProfileService.js)

в processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:105:5)

в ProfileController.createProfile (C:\snapshot\project\obj\controllers\ProfileController.js)

в ProfileCallbacks.createProfile (C:\snapshot\project\obj\callbacks\ProfileCallbacks.js)

в HttpRouter.handleRoute (C:\snapshot\project\obj\routers\HttpRouter.js)

в HttpRouter.getResponse (C:\snapshot\project\obj\routers\HttpRouter.js)

can you send me whats inside your mod folder? like a picture. also looks like you are using Russian, I’m not sure if my mod will work with RU localization. maybe it defaults to English the items that don’t have RU locales. but i only have english locales ATM. BUT THIS SHOULDNT BE THE PROBLEM

THIS IS MOSTLIKELY A LOADORDER OR ANOTHER MOD COMPATABILITY. please give me a list of what mods you have installed. and if you have set up any kind of loadorder to the mods

I just uploaded a new version with an order.json file that should help smooth the issue just keep in mind that a new weapon mod was added and is a new requirement Massivesoft - Superi 46

[SVM] Server Value Modifier

acidphantasm-progressivebotsystem

aMoxoPixel-Painter

Card’s Galore

choccy-93raffica-1.1.8

choccy-chinalake-1.0.2

choccy-ksg12-1.0.7

choccy-saa

choccy-striker-1.0.6

choccy-type64-1.0.0

choccy-wa2000

Echoes-of-Tarkov—Requisitions

EpicRangeTime-Weapons

Eukyre-AK50

Eukyre-Consortium

fEpic-50 BMG Remaster-Expansion

GamblerTrader

Lunnayaluna Lotus

Mass_Superi46

Massivesoft-Guns

MoxoPixel-BlackCore

MoxoPixel-TacticalGearComponent

SIG MCX VIRTUS

SPTDynamicMaps

SPT-Realism

Szonszczyk-DefinitiveWeaponVariants

Virtual’s Custom Quest Loader

WTT-Armory

WTT-PackNStrap

zzvinihns-lotsofammo

order.json

all the mods that I use, maybe because of the Russian, I’ll try without it, maybe anyway, thanks for the help.

Most likely, I’m thinking, are you in favor of this fashion Szonszczyk-DefinitiveWeaponVariants

Hey sorry did you ever get it working? As for Szonszczyk-DefinitiveWeaponVariants you are welcome to use what you want and it looks fun! My mod tries to enhance that zero to hero type of playstyle where you can always find ammo on the bodies as most calibers have the same amount of pistols/shotguns/smg’s that fits enough roles

I reinstalled everything and everything worked thanks for the mod

It should work for other gun mods it was just a matter of turning a few things off in realism related to weapons to make the weapons work.

so no its no compatibility change for the guns as much as a compatibility change for realism itself. but all the settings are there to begin with i didnt do anything unique. just provided the config file set up already.

What did you do in realism ? If I just have weapon mods ? can you make it not spew the “blablabla” window without patches ?

“recoil_attachment_overhaul”:false,“mastery_changes”:false,

this unfortunately breaks stamina consumption with stances but I rather have all the extra pistols… and I still use stances because I find them cool.

I’ll see what can be done its just there’s not enough vanilla pistols to do this, but again i’ll see what can be done.

hahaha now that i see someone just created the Superi 46, i think its going to be in the next version ill prob put that in and also make a 57 version too

Thank you for your response, I’ll look forward to it!